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		<title>Comment on Freedom of Expression, My Foot by Alfredo Deambrosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfredo Deambrosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, man.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom of Expression, My Foot by Jonathan Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing to add that hasn&#039;t already been said. But a brilliant blog Alfredo. I&#039;m sorry only to have discovered just now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing to add that hasn&#8217;t already been said. But a brilliant blog Alfredo. I&#8217;m sorry only to have discovered just now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom of Expression, My Foot by Alfredo Deambrosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfredo Deambrosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes!  Apparently, al-Zeidi was beaten after all.  

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/world/middleeast/16shoe.html?_r=1&amp;em

&quot;Mr. Zaidi was subdued by a fellow journalist and then beaten by members of the prime minister’s security detail, who hauled him out of the room in his white socks.&quot;

I&#039;m glad it wasn&#039;t any of Bush&#039;s security guards who beat al-Zeidi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!  Apparently, al-Zeidi was beaten after all.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/world/middleeast/16shoe.html?_r=1&#038;em" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/world/middleeast/16shoe.html?_r=1&#038;em</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Zaidi was subdued by a fellow journalist and then beaten by members of the prime minister’s security detail, who hauled him out of the room in his white socks.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it wasn&#8217;t any of Bush&#8217;s security guards who beat al-Zeidi.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom of Expression, My Foot by Alfredo Deambrosi</title>
		<link>http://deambrosi.edublogs.org/2008/12/15/freedom-of-expression-my-foot/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfredo Deambrosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The brother of the shoe-thrower said that Muntadhar&#039;s arm was broken during the incident according to an article at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28252437/ which says the following: &quot;Earlier, the al-Zeidi&#039;s brother said the journalist had an arm broken in chaotic scenes when he was leapt on by Iraqi security officers.&quot;  

I have not heard any account, indicating that other injuries came later.

I&#039;ll leave it to persons who are more qualified than I am to determine whether the force used during the arrest was inappropriate.  I agree that it would certainly be wrong for officials to take it upon themselves to punish al-Zeidi by inflicting additional injuries after his arrest.

I must admit that I am surprised by another statement in the same article: &quot;Leading criminal lawyer Ali Ahmed Mansour said Iraqi law allows for up to two years in prison for anyone who publicly insults a foreign state, an international organization or a foreign country&#039;s head of state.&quot;

I appreciate the idea of showing respect for political opponents (I have argued for doing so in two posts on this blog in the last two months), but punishing public insults with imprisonment really does show too much limitation on freedom of speech.  If I were an Iraqi, though, I think I would still prefer the present freedom-of-expression policy over a Saddam Hussein regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brother of the shoe-thrower said that Muntadhar&#8217;s arm was broken during the incident according to an article at <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28252437/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28252437/</a> which says the following: &#8220;Earlier, the al-Zeidi&#8217;s brother said the journalist had an arm broken in chaotic scenes when he was leapt on by Iraqi security officers.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I have not heard any account, indicating that other injuries came later.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave it to persons who are more qualified than I am to determine whether the force used during the arrest was inappropriate.  I agree that it would certainly be wrong for officials to take it upon themselves to punish al-Zeidi by inflicting additional injuries after his arrest.</p>
<p>I must admit that I am surprised by another statement in the same article: &#8220;Leading criminal lawyer Ali Ahmed Mansour said Iraqi law allows for up to two years in prison for anyone who publicly insults a foreign state, an international organization or a foreign country&#8217;s head of state.&#8221;</p>
<p>I appreciate the idea of showing respect for political opponents (I have argued for doing so in two posts on this blog in the last two months), but punishing public insults with imprisonment really does show too much limitation on freedom of speech.  If I were an Iraqi, though, I think I would still prefer the present freedom-of-expression policy over a Saddam Hussein regime.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom of Expression, My Foot by AmericanZealot</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmericanZealot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I heard today that shoe-thrower has been soundly punished by having his arm broken and ribs smashed while in the custody of our allies in the pursuit of corporate globalism and torture--oops I mean the pursuit of liberty and justice for all.
 
This is even better than having shoes thrown at him, no??? Everyone in Iraq now knows it is not wise to raise their proverbial (or literal) heels against their new Caesar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I heard today that shoe-thrower has been soundly punished by having his arm broken and ribs smashed while in the custody of our allies in the pursuit of corporate globalism and torture&#8211;oops I mean the pursuit of liberty and justice for all.</p>
<p>This is even better than having shoes thrown at him, no??? Everyone in Iraq now knows it is not wise to raise their proverbial (or literal) heels against their new Caesar.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom of Expression, My Foot by Alfredo Deambrosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfredo Deambrosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that the shoe thrower has gone through a lot, but I could not justify these actions . . .

. . . even if I were in his shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that the shoe thrower has gone through a lot, but I could not justify these actions . . .</p>
<p>. . . even if I were in his shoes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Freedom of Expression, My Foot by how do you define it?</title>
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		<dc:creator>how do you define it?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so we are to respect this man&#039;s right to show a complete lack of respect. hmmmmm.

he threw a shoe.

let shoes be thrown at him on international tv. i know several that would love to show their free expression toward him. and i daresay he&#039;d be clobbered with some nice boots over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so we are to respect this man&#8217;s right to show a complete lack of respect. hmmmmm.</p>
<p>he threw a shoe.</p>
<p>let shoes be thrown at him on international tv. i know several that would love to show their free expression toward him. and i daresay he&#8217;d be clobbered with some nice boots over there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Students&#8217; Favorite Short Stories by will</title>
		<link>http://deambrosi.edublogs.org/2008/11/03/my-students-favorite-short-stories/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t remember all of these, but really love(d) &quot;Araby&quot;.
Also, for the little boy in me, I could always go in for a dose of &quot;The Most Dangerous Game&quot;. woot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t remember all of these, but really love(d) &#8220;Araby&#8221;.<br />
Also, for the little boy in me, I could always go in for a dose of &#8220;The Most Dangerous Game&#8221;. woot!</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Students&#8217; Favorite Short Stories by Betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that the girls like &quot;Appointment with Love&quot; (and some of the guys too), and a lot of them like &quot;The Most Dangerous Game.&quot; I remember when I taught that class most of them didn&#039;t like &quot;Miss Brill.&quot;

I loved teaching &quot;Pigeon Feathers,&quot; and some of my students came to enjoy it too, but not everyone. 

I&#039;d be interested to see what your students said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that the girls like &#8220;Appointment with Love&#8221; (and some of the guys too), and a lot of them like &#8220;The Most Dangerous Game.&#8221; I remember when I taught that class most of them didn&#8217;t like &#8220;Miss Brill.&#8221;</p>
<p>I loved teaching &#8220;Pigeon Feathers,&#8221; and some of my students came to enjoy it too, but not everyone. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to see what your students said.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Conservative Response to the Election by Will</title>
		<link>http://deambrosi.edublogs.org/2008/11/11/conservative-response-to-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alfredo, thanks for sharing these. I have no doubt that it was difficult and humbling for each of these men to come to these conclusions and state them calmly as they did.
May God give us all the grace to respond well to the life he shares with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfredo, thanks for sharing these. I have no doubt that it was difficult and humbling for each of these men to come to these conclusions and state them calmly as they did.<br />
May God give us all the grace to respond well to the life he shares with us.</p>
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